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Foro de Meteorología => Seguimiento de huracanes, tifones y ciclones => Mensaje iniciado por: DanieleRmItaly en Junio 18, 2009, 17:33:08 pm

Título: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: DanieleRmItaly en Junio 18, 2009, 17:33:08 pm
On 15-16-17-18 (today) Jun a low system developed over Azores Islands from a big thunderstorm system

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6183/sea.png) (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/sea.png/)

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/717/cycl1.jpg) (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/cycl1.jpg/)

the little low moved south-west, over the Canary Islands..

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6061/cycl2.jpg) (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/cycl2.jpg/)

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9057/cycl3.jpg) (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/cycl3.jpg/)

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4206/cycl4.jpg) (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/cycl4.jpg/)

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4316/cycl5.png) (http://img230.imageshack.us/i/cycl5.png/)

In the last night, the thunderstorm activity increase in the center.. it like a tropical depression, max winds 30 knots.

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5874/cycl6.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/i/cycl6.jpg/)

(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/3581/winds1.png) (http://img54.imageshack.us/i/winds1.png/)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1672/cycl7.png) (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/cycl7.png/)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3696/cycl8.png) (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/cycl8.png/)

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3408/cycl9.png) (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/cycl9.png/)

In this moment continue the convection in the center..very like a tropical depression.

(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/879/organized.jpg) (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/organized.jpg/)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: Gale en Junio 18, 2009, 17:50:25 pm
Hi, Daniele! Precisely we were talking about it :P

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6927/posibleinvest.jpg)

Thank you!
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: DanieleRmItaly en Junio 18, 2009, 18:18:51 pm
15:00
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4415/canaryistropicalstorm.png) (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/canaryistropicalstorm.png/)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: seal en Junio 18, 2009, 19:38:53 pm
Lleva varios dias rondando las Canarias, interesante como se esta comportando, casi parada en la zona y con el vortice muy definido.
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: MESOVORTICE en Junio 18, 2009, 21:08:21 pm
La presión central es muy pobre de momento 1016mb :-\

 The corresponding 1016 mb low
pressure center is near) 30n19w. This low center is forecast to move
to the northwest during the next 24 hours and away from the Canary
Islands. Showers are possible from 31n to 32n between 17w and 19w.



 http://www.ibiseye.com/?newsitem=1-65-15

De todas formas seguiremos observandola ::).
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: MESOVORTICE en Junio 18, 2009, 21:23:42 pm
Posibilidades nulas de momento,según la NOAA.

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3899/posi.gif) (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/posi.gif/)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: DanieleRmItaly en Junio 19, 2009, 02:09:18 am
Posibiladades nulas for Noaa or NHC ?
This little storm have an evident tropical caracteristics.. Not important in this cases the posibilidades for Noaa or NHC.
This is minimum L INVEST.. for my opinion it's a tropical depression.

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5458/urri.jpg) (http://img150.imageshack.us/i/urri.jpg/)

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5458/urri.jpg) (http://img81.imageshack.us/i/urri.jpg/)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: Gale en Junio 19, 2009, 08:58:20 am
In S2K forum there was a member who talked about Tiny Tim Storms (http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6025).................... Small and short-lived storms............... and perhaps this kind of little systems could be includded. Yesterday, I was looking at cyclone phase diagrams and all of them were pointing to a small cold core system. But I think cyclone phase diagrams don't work very well with those systems so small...............

En el foro S2K hubo un miembro que habló de las tormentas Tiny Tim............... Tormentas pequeñas y de corta duración................... y quizá este tipo de pequeños sistemas podrían ser incluídos. Ayer, estuve mirando los diagramas de fase y todos ellos apuntaban a un sistema pequeño y de núcleo frío. Pero yo creo que los diagramas de fase no funcionan bien con estos sistemas tan pequeños..............
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: Gale en Junio 19, 2009, 09:05:50 am
Imagen en modo visible de ayer a las 18 UTC:

(http://images.meteociel.fr/im/9467/posibleinvest2_ksa9.jpg)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: DanieleRmItaly en Junio 19, 2009, 09:59:43 am
Infact, diagrams and European carts don't work very well with those systems so small,but only in  east Atlantic and Mediterranean sea. For the west and central Atlantic cyclones are many other study and carts (and the NHC).

Many little tropical storm or depression like in dimension at these Canary cyclone.
Like in structur as many tropical depression or storm,with thunderstom activity little north-north east of the center:
The structure egual..
And for me have a warm core. Thunderstorm activity not possible in cold core cyclones center.

Look Tropical Storm Ernesto  1-2-3 September 2000

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4329/tropicalstormernesto.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/tropicalstormernesto.jpg/)

And the Canary unnamed cyclone 15-16-17-18-19 Jun 2009:

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5458/urri.jpg) (http://img81.imageshack.us/i/urri.jpg/)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: DanieleRmItaly en Junio 19, 2009, 14:06:55 pm
Today, 19 Jun 09, continue the debol-moderate convection in the system

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4921/tropicalstormernestor.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/tropicalstormernestor.jpg/)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: Chaparrón en Junio 19, 2009, 14:58:23 pm
Inicio > 15-16 de Junio

(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/434/1516jun098hora.gif)
Saludos
 ;)
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: MESOVORTICE en Junio 20, 2009, 09:52:12 am
Al final me he decidido hacer un video del recorrido que ha echo esta Dana un tanto estraña en un mes de Junio para el archipiélago Canario.
Al final de él, se pueden ver las imagenes que se han posteado en el seguimiento canario de Clima7.
Esta mañana viendo el video con mas tranquilidad, me he fijado que al NE de Madeira, el vortice tuvo un amago para la formación de un "ojo".  ::)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFbvR3AdvtM&eurl=[/youtube]

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7619/ojo0.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/ojo0.jpg/)


Un saludo.
Título: Re: Another Little system over Canary Islands..
Publicado por: DanieleRmItaly en Junio 20, 2009, 11:21:28 am
Good video Mesovortice! :)
In conclusion, for my opinion, thi is a normal tropical depression.
(K.Emanuel: cutoff cold low is an ideal embryon in which a tropical-like cyclone can be produced).

on the 19th continue the little closed circulation with debol-moderate convection in the center and 30 knots winds:

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6853/windss.png) (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/windss.png/)

day:
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7153/oxwpu1.jpg) (http://img507.imageshack.us/i/oxwpu1.jpg/)

evening:
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7138/srsq2r8doxwpu1.jpg) (http://img507.imageshack.us/i/srsq2r8doxwpu1.jpg/)