000WTNT41 KNHC 041457TCDAT1TROPICAL DEPRESSION ELEVEN DISCUSSION NUMBER 1NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL1120091000 AM EST WED NOV 04 2009THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE SOUTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA HASDEVELOPED ENOUGH ORGANIZED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY TO NOW BECONSIDERED A TROPICAL DEPRESSION. SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT A NEWBURST OF THUNDERSTORMS IS OCCURRING NEAR THE CENTER WITH BANDINGFEATURES BECOMING MORE DISTINGUISHED. TAFB/SAB DVORAKCLASSIFICATIONS WERE 2.0...30 KT...AT 1200 UTC...AND THAT INTENSITYWILL BE USED AS THE INITIAL WIND SPEED. IT WOULD NOT BESURPRISING...HOWEVER...IF THIS SYSTEM WERE ALREADY A TROPICAL STORMDUE TO THE IMPROVING SATELLITE PRESENTATION. THE AIR FORCE RESERVEWILL BE IN THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON TO GIVE A BETTER ESTIMATE OF THEWINDS.THE INITIAL MOTION USED FOR THIS ADVISORY IS 315/7...THOUGH IT ISUNCERTAIN WHETHER THIS IS TRULY REPRESENTATIVE DUE TO THE CENTERREFORMATION THAT APPEARED TO OCCUR OVERNIGHT. STEERING CURRENTS AREEXPECTED TO BE FAIRLY LIGHT DURING THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS AS THEDEPRESSION IS CAUGHT BETWEEN A WEAK MID-LEVEL HIGH OVER THENORTH-CENTRAL CARIBBEAN SEA AND A TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN GULFOF MEXICO. ALTHOUGH THERE IS GENERAL AGREEMENT IN THE LARGE-SCALEPATTERN...THE MODELS ARE SHOWING A LARGE AMOUNT OF DIVERGENCE ONTHE EXPECTED PATH OF THE DEPRESSION. MOST OF THE GUIDANCE SUGGESTTHE SYSTEM WILL MOVE TO THE NORTHWEST THEN NORTH AROUND THESOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE CARIBBEAN RIDGE. HOWEVER...SOME OFTHE RELIABLE GUIDANCE...SUCH AS THE ECMWF AND UKMET...SHOW THESYSTEM MOVING CONSIDERABLY SLOWER WITH ONLY A NORTHWARD DRIFT.GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY...THE NHC FORECAST IS NEAR BUT SLIGHTLY TOTHE RIGHT OF THE MODEL CONSENSUS.ALTHOUGH THE DEPRESSION IS CURRENTLY IN A LIGHT SHEAR AND WARM WATERENVIRONMENT...ITS PROXIMITY TO LAND AND UNCERTAIN TRACK FORECASTLEADS TO A COMPLEX INTENSITY FORECAST. THE GFDL...ONE OF THE ONLYMODELS THAT KEEPS THE SYSTEM OFFSHORE...MAKES THE SYSTEM AHURRICANE IN A FEW DAYS. HOWEVER...NEITHER THE SHIPS NOR THE LGEMMODELS SHOW MUCH INTENSIFICATION AT ALL. THESE MODELS SEEM TO BE ALITTLE UNDERDONE...AND THE NHC FORECAST WILL BE ON THE HIGHER SIDEOF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE...THOUGH NOT AS HIGH AS THE GFDL.FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 04/1500Z 11.6N 82.0W 30 KT 12HR VT 05/0000Z 11.9N 82.3W 45 KT 24HR VT 05/1200Z 12.5N 83.0W 50 KT 36HR VT 06/0000Z 13.0N 83.5W 50 KT 48HR VT 06/1200Z 13.5N 84.0W 35 KT...INLAND 72HR VT 07/1200Z 14.5N 84.5W 25 KT...INLAND 96HR VT 08/1200Z 15.5N 85.0W 25 KT...INLAND120HR VT 09/1200Z 18.0N 85.5W 35 KT...OVER WATER$$FORECASTER BLAKE/FRANKLIN